#62 Unlocking Your Potential: The Power of Community with Bundle Birth Nurse Mentors

Justine:
Hi, I’m Justine.

Sarah Lavonne:
And I’m Sarah Lavonne.

Justine:
And we are so glad you’re here.

Sarah Lavonne:
We believe that your life has the potential to make a deep, meaningful impact on the world around you. You, as a nurse, have the ability to add value to every single person and patient you touch.

Justine:
We want to inspire you with resources, education, and stories to support you to live your absolute best life, both in and outside of work.

Sarah Lavonne:
But don’t expect perfection over here. We’re just here to have some conversations about anything birth, work and life, trying to add some happy to your hour as we all grow together.

Justine:
By nurses, for nurses. This is Happy Hour with Bundle Birth Nurses.
This is a special episode. This is first of all an endeavor. It’s our most guests ever in one time. If we talk over each other, this is why, but we have all of our mentors. Every few months, we get to hang out and it doesn’t even feel like a chore because we get to finally see all each other every couple months and do a team meeting. And we just had one. And I was just reminded again of how much I love every single one of them. And so this episode, we get to share them with you and we’re really looking forward to it.

Sarah Lavonne:
I feel like this is the most overdue thing in the entire world. By the way, we’ve had a mentorship program since, when did we start? 2020. It was height of the pandemic and mentorship has evolved over time. It started with me and Justine as mentors. And then you’re going to meet Mykel and Bri that we’re brought on, and then you’re going to meet Carly and Jess that were brought on. And so we’re all here finally to get to not only introduce them to you. I’m so excited for you to get to know them. You’re going to have to distinguish between their voices. I feel like we could put a little voice note of Mykel as it comes on or something because there will be different voices, so you’re going to have to help pay attention to that because there are so many people, but you’re going to get to go know them.
And then we’re also going to get to learn about mentorship and the value of community because that is such a value of what we do here at Bundle Birth. We always say that we’re education and support. And the education piece, I think, is very clear of how we educate and we have so much education, but the support piece is much harder to do when you have an online community and when you have people all over the literal world. And so one of my favorite ways that we do the support thing is through our mentorship calls. And I think it’s probably the most meaningful way that we get to connect with you and help you connect with us and with each other. And so without further ado, I would love for each of you to jump in and just tell us about yourself and tell this community who you are.

Mykel LeCheminant:
Okay, can I chime in and say, education and support is mentorship, to me. So my name’s Mykel LeCheminant and I love getting to be a mentor because as a mentor, I not only learn from all of the mentors and the mentees, it’s like there’s the education piece, but I also feel so much support. This is a collaborative, right? This is a collective of these amazing individuals that come together from very different backgrounds, different lenses, different places, and we all come together and we look at content, we debrief content, we do activities, and we learn together. And so that is why I love being a mentor and I love getting to work with each of you.
Just a little bit about me and my lens, if we all have lenses that we bring. I’ve worked in a variety of roles in nursing leadership, in nursing education, as a bedside nurse, and I feel like mentorship is building the gaps in all of those areas. It’s what I wish I would have had and that I’ve now had in orientation to any of those roles at any point in my career. And so I feel like mentorship, yes, I’m taking it ongoing. As a mentor, I have the privilege of doing that because I’m constantly onboarding and getting to learn with these other mentors and with each of you.

Breanne Clinger:
I second that. It’s a complete privilege of being an ongoing mentor. I loved that, Mykel. So this is Breanne talking, Breanne Klinger and I have been a mentor for two years now, and like Mykel said, always a mentor learning from the nurses. I love to say that the nurses are the sages on the stage and I am the guide on the side, and we learn so much from the nurses there. I would say my favorite part about mentorship is the aha moments that we have collectively. And not to say that I’m saying anything profound, many of the other nurses are saying other things that are profound, but I think it’s just us giving a space for a time, a scheduled time every month that we come together, that we are agreeing to open up our hearts, open up our minds for some self-care and to take things on a deeper level and to really be the best we can be.
My history, I am a mom of three kids and I started in postpartum and nursery, worked in labor and delivery, moved to education and bundle birth was… I kind of just nuzzled my way in. I saw Justine and Sarah come together and I was like, “Please let me in. Let me be a part of this,” and found mentorship, got to take it and privileged to continue to be the ongoing mentor, ongoing mentee is what I mean.

Sarah Lavonne:
Bri is almost like a Justine sneak in as well. You came at the perfect time. We were so overwhelmed because we had so many people in mentorship and we were like, “How are we handling 100, 120 people on a call? I think we’re going to need help.” And there were other things happening and she popped up at the right moment and is just such the perfect person to jump in.
And then Mykel, to go back to you. It seems how I’m going to comment on Bri too. Mykel, in my history, goes way back. Mykel is actually one of my mentors. So the fact that she is now here is so crazy in such a small world. And the fact that you all get to learn from her, Mykel has made me who I am. And so many things that I teach you are Mykelisms, so she’s sneakily already been infused into Bundle Birth from the jump because we worked together in the hospital back in the day. You can say whatever you want to say about that, Mykel, but…

Mykel LeCheminant:
Which I love. And so can I sneakily say that when Bri was trying to nuzzle her way into Bundle Birth, I was with Sarah and Justine and I remember them being like, “So there’s this gal named Bri and she has this Utah connection like you. Can you check her out?” And I was like, “Oh yeah, I want to get to know this Bri.” And then just getting to know Bri so much deeper on these calls. And now as I’ve gotten to know Jess and Carly, it’s like, welcome to this family, this community of Bundle Birth nurses. And it’s like there’s Bundle Birth nurses and now there’s this Bundle Birth mentorship that is just such a pleasure to be a part of because it keeps growing and our circle keeps growing. And I just love that.

Carly Dahl:
I will say being you all love on our mentees is such a wonderful way to get to know you. It is such a special bond we have and a few of us have never met in person, but I feel like I know you so deeply because of that, because I see how you care for these nurses and it’s so unique. So thanks, Zoom.

Sarah Lavonne:
Seriously. What we can do with technology.

Carly Dahl:
My name’s Carly. I am also a mentor. I’m in northern California and I’ve been a nurse for a while. I love this job so much, but there was a point where it was getting very hard for me. And so I entered this world a little bit differently as a mentee, and I mentorship I think with… Which cohort did I do, Sarah?

Sarah Lavonne:
It would’ve been-

Carly Dahl:
In the beginning.

Sarah Lavonne:
Yeah, it would’ve been the second or third cohort because you weren’t a part of the original, but it was early on for sure.

Mykel LeCheminant:
It was enough for me to remember your graduation, Carly.

Sarah Lavonne:
I feel like it was April of 2021 or something.

Carly Dahl:
Wow. And by the way, for graduation, we wear the little Zoom graduation caps, which is very special and official.

Sarah Lavonne:
It’s real cute. It’s real cute.

Carly Dahl:
Yeah. So I did mentorship and it completely reinvigorated my practice. And the most special thing about being a mentor is being able to see that happen for other nurses. Seeing nurses go from being burnt out to gaining so many tools, gaining so much confidence and it doesn’t get old. And it also holds me accountable to never stop learning. I think that’s another special thing that we have. We get to continue doing the modules ourselves and learning from nurses and seeing what’s happening all over the country, which is really valuable.

Jess McGrail:
I love that. Carly. I absolutely think that one of the best things about mentorship and being a mentor is that I get to just keep learning. I keep learning. I’m always challenged because every single call, somebody says something, brings up something and I’m like, oh, I’ve never thought about it like that before. And it just completely changes my paradigm for the way that I’ve always taught that or the way I’ve always thought about that. And it’s just been a huge challenge for me, and just in such a great way.
I’m Jess and I am in Atlanta area at this point. I came from New York and I came into mentorship the same way Carly did. I was a mentee, so my journey into labor and delivery was very different from, I think, pretty much everyone here because I started in critical care and from straight out of nursing school was in telemetry, was in PCU, and spent some years doing that.
And I had gotten to the point in my career where I was like, “I don’t want to do this anymore. I am done with this unit.” Needed to go somewhere else and I was either going to go to the ER or I was going to go to labor and delivery. And my only real experience with labor and delivery was having my own children. So I have five kids and my experience with birth was in the hospital, natural, and I thought that was how everybody gave birth. And so then when I got into the labor and delivery unit, I was very surprised and a little bit taken aback that there was so much intervention happening because it was just out of my realm of understanding. I really didn’t know that was the way that people did things in the hospital and the way that the birthing world in America had gone.
And so I get onto this unit and I’m surrounded by this whole different world that I wasn’t expecting. And for a second I was like, “Where are my people? This just doesn’t feel like what I thought it was going to be like. Where are my people?” And not to say I love the people that I worked with on the unit, but just the way that it was so medicalized was shocking.
And so I started looking and stumbled upon Bundle Birth nurses on Instagram. And so then I was like, “Oh yes, okay, these are my people.” And so then I took mentorship and I feel like even though I had been on that unit for a while and I was already kind of labeled as the crunchy nurse or the natural patient comes in, give her to her, it was just kind of that. But I felt like I found my people.
And that has been, for me, what was most impactful, not just as a mentee but as a mentor as well, is the community. Because what you’re doing when you take mentorship is you’re your and you’re building this community. It can feel really lonely when you’re on unit and you have these thoughts of wanting to promote physiologic birth. And like, “What if we tried this position? What if we tried that position?” And people look at you like, “Why are you doing all that work, honey? What are you doing?” And I remember there was this one nurse on my unit that I first started I loved her. She was so amazing and all of them were amazing, but this one particular nurse, she had done spinning babies and she was so good at all of that stuff and I learned so much from her, but she was just encouraging.
And I just remember feeling like, in mentorship, that was continued. That I had other people who were just like, “No, let’s do this together. Let’s be a community. Let’s pour into each other. Let’s learn.” Because we can change the game like Sarah likes to say. We can change the game, but the answer to fear isn’t courage. It’s community. And I think that what we find in mentorship is that community. And I feel like learning from Bri, learning from learning from Justine, learning from Carly, absolutely. But learning from the nurses who are in mentorship has been even more icing on the cake with being a part of this family and part of this team. It’s been so much fun and so excellent.

Mykel LeCheminant:
So Jess, I think that, in of itself, that community, is part of the beauty of mentorship. We’re surrounded by change agents. It’s like everybody who enters mentorship is there because they want to change the game. And I think part of what fills my cup… We were joking earlier about, “Oh, what’s our challenge for mentorship?” And I was like, “Oh, a gallon a day, gallon challenge. Drink your water.” But it’s like I get my cup filled with gallons of water from mentorship because it’s refreshing, literally. It’s like everybody who shows up is willing to do the work. They’re willing to do the research. They want to make care better, they want to be better, do better. And so I walk away from every call because of that community feeling like I’m better and that I can do better and that I can be better. And that is really filling.

Jess McGrail:
I think that’s part of that too, Mykel. It’s being the change that we want to see in the world. I didn’t mean to quote Gandhi, but we do want to be the change and we can be. And when you have community behind you and when you have people behind, you come every month to these calls and you’re like, oh, I’m not alone. I have other people who think like me. I have other people who not just want to change but are actively doing things to change the way that birth looks in the hospital setting.
Just also being a birth coach on the side. I think that we’ve had several people come through mentorship who are also doulas or birth coaches on the side, and it just brings this whole other real. And we can dream about this perfect world where everybody works together and everybody is moving towards the same goal. And I’m just constantly blown away at how much I get out of these calls and how much just, I don’t know… I mean, I keep saying community, but it’s just friendships that are built. When we saw some of these nurses in Cancun, it was like a family reunion. I’ve only seen you on Zoom, but now I’m seeing you in person. It was just so cool and so much fun to be able to just be part of that whole kind of movement, I guess, is the word.

Sarah Lavonne:
What I love about all of you, I was biting my lip and my tongue and everything to try to turn off my brain to not tear up and cry as you’re all talking, and I’m probably going to cry now. How did we get so lucky? And L&D is so hard, and it’s mean. There’s so many mean people and there’s so many people that don’t want what we all want as far as liking each other and working together and not being mean about not knowing something. We say in month one of mentorship, “You’re not stupid, you’re just learning.” And that came from my own bullying and we talk about that in mentorship.
And so I’m listening to you guys talk, I’m like, oh, it feels so good. And I just see cheerleaders in all of you. And when I’m on these calls, which I am by the way, not on the calls hardly ever because I just feel like the calls are in such better capable hands and I don’t need to be there. You’ll see me and learn from me in the modules, but I’m not on these calls because I don’t need to be.
And that to know that you have this force of powerful, unique, talented, kind, safe support through this community and for me to even just hear you talk now, I’m just like, oh, I love that. They’re so cared for by you guys. So thank you. And I just like, how did we get so lucky? And mind you, that is what Bundle Birth calls, and for any of you that are maybe not a part of the community, this is our heart for you. This is why we work so hard. This is why we show up and we keep showing up and we keep trying to offer new things because we do care. And I hope you hear that from these mentors. It’s not just me, it’s not just Justine. There’s this whole force of incredible people behind this machine that are all here to help just care for you.

Carly Dahl:
I think you bring up a great point as to how we make change. It’s a safe space where we are able to acknowledge the real challenges that we face on our units. And there’s so much comradery in that. There’s so much understanding and validation when we’re able to acknowledge how hard things really are. And then we’re able to workshop in mentorship, how to create small changes, role play. Tell me what that sounds like when you’re going to confront a doctor about consent. Tell me what that sounds like when you’re going to consult with another nurse about doing things a little differently. And I think that those small changes, they start there and they become bigger changes, but it begins with having that safe space and feeling, I want to say seen, safe and soothed, but feeling like they can come as they are. Right? And-

Sarah Lavonne:
Well, I think too, Carly, it reminds me of when we were on that call with Jess, you and me, where sometimes we’ll ask, “Well, how and why did you keep coming?” Because we have nurses that come every single time and they come to 13 calls and it is like we know them, but we’ve never met them, which is crazy. And one of the things we hear is that, yeah, it’s constructive. It’s not venting at the unit and just venting and it goes nowhere. It’s not complaining and it goes nowhere. You get to talk about it, vent about it, and then make a plan.
And it’s so interesting time and time again, I count how many mentorship calls I’ve been on now, we all have the same issues and the problems. And we practice differently, sure. There’s different policies for this, et cetera, but it’s like, oh yeah. And that feels so comforting in a way. Terrible in a way because you’re like, why we all have so many issues? But then comforting to be like, it’s not just us. And then again, just to reiterate, it is so isolating to have your energy not matched on your unit. And when you come to these calls, you’re being matched and it’s lovely to see people care and you’re like, there are people out there that care and that’s just sometimes everything you need to get through the next month and get on another call.

Jess McGrail:
I was just going to add onto that too, Justine, what Carly said about the small changes. All of the things that I have implemented into my own practice from being a mentee, but also then being a mentor and relearning the stuff over and over again are so small. The very first thing I learned from Justine as a mentee, sit down at the bedside. And what a huge difference it’s made. When I sit down, it’s a whole different thing.
And then just changing one word or one phrase that I say or don’t say, removing one thing out. The difference between a trauma-informed response versus an untrauma-informed response. Just small, small things, but they completely… It’s like riding a cruise ship. You just do it a tiny bit at a time and they’re all small things, but they feel huge when you put them into practice. And you see the difference in your relationships with the other nurses, your relationships with providers, your relationships with your patients. It’s just small little micro things that make these huge, huge changes. And that’s one of the things that I just appreciate so much.

Brianne Klinger:
It’s Mykel saying of micro changes leave macro impact, and that’s what I love. I gain these golden nuggets from each of you and even the mentees too. And I wanted to share. So on Zoom, we’re on Zoom right now, and we’re all looking at each other. And when something shared, we’re like, “Oh, yeah.” Nodding our heads. We’re so into it, we’re smiling at each other. Our hearts are there. And that’s the moment on our calls when someone shares something and everyone’s like, “Yes!” We’re all nodding our heads. And it’s that moment of being like, oh, I’m not alone. I’m not alone at all. I have this huge Bundle Birth family around me.
And when Sarah was sharing and literally crying because we can see her face and I’m getting goosebumps, it’s that feeling on the calls of not only this mental enlightenment, but it’s almost visceral. It’s the internal feeling of, we’re making a change together and it’s step by step. And again, when people come to the phone calls, we talked about gaining that confidence and showing up just the way they are and maybe talking about what they’re nervous about, what they’re fearing. And that’s really where our confidence comes from. We have to first face our fear right in the eye and we can proceed with humility and gain that wisdom collectively.

Mykel LeCheminant:
I love that perspective, Bri, because I feel like our calls are a place where we process the content. So we watch the modules, we take in all of this information and it’s great information, but then when we come together as this collective, this is when it’s like, okay, let’s make sense of everything. Let’s then apply it. What does this look like, sound like? What does this feel like at the bedside as now I do it in my own care environment? And we can bounce ideas off of each other and it’s like, oh yeah, you know what? That wouldn’t quite work for me, but oh, yes, this would, and I’m going to try that tomorrow. Here’s one small thing that I can implement that I’ve learned from Jess or Justine or Bri in my own care environment.
And I feel like that’s also what makes the calls meaningful and, I think, constructive was the word that Justine used, and I love that because they build and they build on each other. And so it’s like they work so well hand in hand with the material. So it’s like, okay, here’s the material and here’s the call. I want to put them together to be the best I can be.

Sarah Lavonne:
Well, what is the stat of when you learn, it’s like you learn this or you ingest or you remember this much of how much you read, how much you hear, how much you feel and do, and then you teach. I think teach is the highest way. I know for me, that’s how I learn. I watch some of the modules myself and I’m like, wow, I learned so much from myself. But that’s just how it is when you teach it kind of sits in, and that’s what I see happening with these calls because you do, like you said, you watch the class, there’s a workbook that comes with it, and then you come to the calls, mind you, calls are optional. But I think, I don’t know, I’m listening to you all. I’m like, I want to hang out with you every month. It’s so lovely.
And so that’s really the opportunity for it to deepen your learning. I’m curious from all of you, what are the transformations that you’re seeing happen across the year? Because the program is, it’s 12 months, so it is a commitment, but it’s one call a month and whether you show up or not, you’re not being punished. There’s no technical homework. We would love for you to watch the class, look at the workbook. There’ll be a few little prompts of like, hey, pay attention to this for the next call. But you don’t have to do any of the content for you to come to the calls and just show up. The other thing I want to say as your advocate, and I love that you mentioned, I think it was Bri that was like… And seeing your faces, please have your cameras on for all of us because it’s very challenging when your cameras are off because you lose that personal touch and that personal connection.
And I will say as a previous mentor, you’re like, “Hello, hello? Black box, you there? I’m not really sure.” We don’t care at all if you’re in your pajamas, if you’re breastfeeding.” And we have kids that are in the background running around on these calls. Maybe mute yourself so it’s not distracting, but please show up as you are and that’s all we care about and that we just want to be available to you. And so I love that safe environment that you’ve created along the way. And so back to the question. I know, Mykel, do you have something to say? You want to jump in?

Mykel LeCheminant:
I’m going to jump in about that, how I love seeing people in their environment. We’re all nurses. We do a lot of the same thing there, but it’s really fun to see people like, oh yeah, and here’s your cute puppy baby. And here’s your baby, and you’re nursing on the call and that’s awesome. We’re so glad you’re here and you’re cleaning your house or you’re cooking dinner or you’re sitting here. It’s really kind of fun to get to know people’s style, how they decorate their home, what are they reading? It’s really neat to connect on that level as well.

Justine:
We always knew Carly had a great loft, right? Before we even knew it.

Sarah Lavonne:
Plants, right.

Justine:
Corey was always in her pool.

Sarah Lavonne:
Yeah, or hot tub or something.

Justine:
So it’s fun. And we’ve literally seen babies grow up that’s been so sweet. They are born during mentorship and then we see them grow and that’s just so lovely.

Sarah Lavonne:
Well, and I love that that speaks to the safety of the environment. And that’s what I want people to understand is that if you’re looking for that safe place, that’s what we want to be for you. There is no judgment zone. There is so much protection of your needs and your nervous system and the community at large that if you’re trying to be a mean girl, it’s not going to fly for very long in this environment that the goal is just to care for one another and show up as you are. And if you’re a mess, you’re a mess. And if you’re on cloud nine, you saw your first birth, then have at it, we’re going to celebrate with you.

Jess McGrail:
I think one of my favorite things to see throughout the year, we get to build these communities, little microcosms of the communities. And in our last, I think it was our last January cohort, was that right, Carly? We had two babies that were born. And so we literally were like, we got to see them pregnant, and then we got to walk through the birth and everything with them, and it was just so much fun to see them every month. And you’re like, how are they so big already? But in the same way, I’m going to make a little segue here. We have mentees come in and they’re like, maybe they’ve been a nurse for five minutes, maybe they’ve been a nurse for 30 years. What we see throughout the year is this transformation.
What I think mentorship offers more than anything is, well, besides community is hope. There’s hope that it can be different. There’s hope that I’m not alone. There’s hope that I can make these micro changes that Mykel was talking about and make a huge impact. And so we watch these nurses come in that sometimes who are really timid or they have this one thing that they’re scared of, maybe they’re afraid to talk to providers or maybe there’s this one person, one other nurse on their unit that’s just really intimidating or something, and they just are running into mentorship with their tail between their legs, not sure what to do. And I have watched time and time again, we see as they become more and more equipped every single month with the content that they’re learning, at the end of mentorship, they’re so confident.
And then they can walk into these uncomfortable situations and they’re still scared, but they learn how to do it scared. And then they do it and then their whole practice is changed and then their unit is changed because then they’re becoming a preceptor and they’re impacting people who are coming up through and then they maybe become an educator and then they’re educating their whole unit.
I mean, it’s just the ripple effect is so huge, and that is just what I love. It’s like you don’t have to know all the answers and you don’t have to have it all together. You get to come as you are. There’s literally no judgment, and that’s not how it is on our units. So you get to come into this environment that’s safe and just be who you are and you get to not know the answer, and then you get to learn and be better because of the people you’re surrounding yourself with. And I just love watching that transformation and people that come through.

Mykel LeCheminant:
Well, Jess, it’s inspiring to see those listening to the stories, then telling their stories. And I think so often we talk about not writing in Bundle Birth, not writing her story, not writing her story. But you watch these mentees write their own stories and it first starts with listening. Here’s what other people are doing. Here’s what I can glean. Here’s what I learned from the content. To then, this is my story. And I tried this because I learned this from Sarah, or I learned this from Justine or from the module, but I also, I heard Courtney do this on her unit, and so I did it too. And just hearing the power of being inspired by each other, it’s writing more stories and just getting to hear these stories that are continuously written is incredibly fulfilling.

Carly Dahl:
And I love that you brought up, just to piggyback off what you said, Jess, you brought up experience because mentorship isn’t just for the brand new nurses. We have so many mentees that have been practicing for 30 years and we learn so much from them, but I agree that some of the changes we see are them stepping into finding a new voice and being comfortable with being uncomfortable, with finding a new way of doing things. And so whether you are a new nurse and you’re finding your voice for the first time, or whether you’re a nurse for 30 years and you want to change things up or you want to leave obstetrics better than you found it, we are privileged enough to see that happen. And it’s very special.

Sarah Lavonne:
I am listening to all of you talk and I’m sitting here being like, oh, I’m going to come back to calls myself because I just love you all so much. I’m really fighting back tears, truly. And I want to just say while we’re here that just thank you for caring and thank you for allowing me to not be there, which is hilarious to say, but also I just could not trust this community with anybody else any more genuinely in my soul than I do, and how much I love you guys to death. I’m so grateful for all of the love and the heart and the time that you pour into this community. It just… I’m full and we’re not even on a mentorship call. We’re just talking about it.
So thank you for all that you do for this community, and thank you to all the mentees who’ve already been through mentorship and thank you to all of the future people who are going to join us on this journey of being a community that is better for our profession and really takes our learning at the forefront of our hands and is like, I’m going to be better. I’m going to take control of what I can and what I can is myself and how I respond and how I show up every day to the bedside.
And so if you are interested, we would love to invite you along for this ride. Our next cohort starts in July, so it is cohorted out and this one will close. And so mentorship will be closed. There’ll be a wait list. You can add yourself to the wait list if you’re listening to this later. And then it will open for registration for two weeks prior to the next month that it starts. So it’ll open in September for the next cohort being October. And then every four months thereafter.
You can always switch cohorts. You can always jump to different calls. We’re very flexible with you, but with mentorship, you do get those 13 classes. We’ve said it before, this is the program and the learning that we wish we had, and it really does hit on all the big topics in obstetrics, specifically for labor and delivery nursing, where you have an on-demand class. You can do it on your own time, you can listen to it on the go. You’ll get CEs for every single class. It comes with 183 page extra supplemental learning workbook. There’s digital downloads and resources that come with every single class, and then you’re invited to a mentor call to really solidify your learning.
And that format is what we dreamt up for you and what we also know by the research that really helps transform yourself from wherever you are. And so my challenge is, which I’ll give you another one at the end of this episode, which I typically do, but my challenge really is to think about where you’re at now and where you want to be. Because I know for a fact that our mentorship program and this community and learning together and really taking control of what you can and this being one option for you, you will not be the same if you apply yourself to this program.
And I love that. I think it was Jess, that you said that it offers hope, that if you’re feeling burnt out, if you’re feeling overwhelmed, if you’re feeling a lack of confidence, if you’re feeling like you need something new, we are here for you and we want to join you on that journey.

Justine:
Thanks for spending your time with us during this episode of Happy Hour with Bundle Birth Nurses. If you like what you heard, it helps us both if you subscribe, rate, leave a raving review and share this episode with a friend. If you want more from us, hit up bundlebirthnurses.com or follow us on Instagram.

Sarah Lavonne:
Now it’s your turn to go and learn something new. Challenge yourself to up level wherever you’re at now, into something micro, which will ultimately and collectively together lead to macro impact on our profession and on our world. We’ll see you next time.